Quote of the Day: the Perils of Talking Past Each Other

Or, the troubles of young love. Your call.

Ah, love, let us be true
To one another! for the world, which seems
To lie before us like a land of dreams,
So various, so beautiful, so new,
Hath really neither joy, nor love, nor light,
Nor certitude, nor peace, nor help for pain;
And we are here as on a darkling plain
Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight,
Where ignorant armies clash by night.

— Matthew Arnold, “Dover Beach”

5 comments

  1. All obama will do is outsource anyways. Just think about the all the lobbyists flocking to Washington DC because of obama’s reckless over-spending of $2 TRILLION in just 6 months, which alone is increasing the National Debt by 20%.

    Politicians take people’s money and reward the large corporations, in this case companies in the health care industry, since they have the money to more effectively lobby politicians. In the end smaller businesses will be hurt.

    Politicians will only reward companies that will be in their best political interest. Honestly, when can you really trust politicians since they are basically professional liars, and being president just means you are the best liar of the time. Why not just give the money directly from the people to the companies and take politicians in government out of the equation?

    obama is going to recklessly spend TRILLIONS of tax payers’ money just to give insurance to about 25% of those who do not have it. Over 50% of people’s income go towards taxes, just imagine how many more people will afford health care insurance if their income is almost doubled because of dramatic tax cuts.

    Competition is what is needed. It lowers prices of products and services, along with developing new innovations. All of which will benefit consumers. You need to remember that monopolistic tendencies can also apply to government.

    The reason why the cost of insurance is high is because politicians in government mandate insurance companies to increase their premiums to pay for ridiculous things. In addition, politicians put up regulations so that Americans are not allowed to get insurance from another state and use the coverage in their own state. This reduces competition making it more expensive for people to get insurance. On top of that medical professionals are not allowed to freely practice their profession in any US state without taking a long and tedious licensing process. This again increases the cost of medical insurance.

    In the end, the problem with most economic issues is too much government intervention of the economy by politicians, who will only tend to do things for political self interest. Just like how obama nationalized GM to pander to its unions. Politicians can barely run government, yet people think they can run a multi-national auto manufacturing company?

    The solution is SMALLER government, LESS spending, and LOWER taxes.

    1. Just to harp on one of your comments among many I disagree with, the claims of reckless spending (spending of TRILLIONS as you inaccurately say) have people who don’t actually look at the spending/deficit and where it’s coming from.

      Obama himself only “recklessly spent” relatively little (200 billion) in face of a recession. Much less than the surplus Bush could use when he was threatened by a recession (850 billion). Obama didn’t go into this with a surplus.

      http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/06/09/business/economy/20090610-leonhardt-graphic.html

      Less money comes in during a recession, on top of that, the government was already set up to run at a defeicit post Bush (partly due to tax cuts and increased spending).

      That alone accounts for most of the spending you claim Obama is doing.

    2. Over 50% of people’s income go towards taxes…

      What the FUCK are you smoking?

      1. To be sure, I’m not only counting federal income tax and ignoring payroll and other taxes.

        To elaborate, I’m in a fairly representative middle-of-the-road income tax bracket. My take-home pay ( after state income tax, federal income tax, medicare, medicaid, and social security) is only about 75% of my taxable wages. So far, that’s 25% of my income going to various taxes.

        But of course, there’s more to pay. Let’s assume a 10% sales tax. That only applies to what I spend, so for the sake of argument let’s also assume that I spend all of my take-home pay on taxable goods and services. So I pay another 10% in taxes, but it’s only 10% of 75% of my taxable income, so it’s only 7.5%.

        In the end, I’m left with 67.5% of my taxable income, having lost about 1/3, not 1/2, of my income to taxes.

  2. Well said, both of you :-).

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